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DISCUSSION => Open Topic -- Any issue => Topic started by: Seth Gannon on January 20, 2010, 02:49:49 PM

Title: National Top 25 -- as of 1/16
Post by: Seth Gannon on January 20, 2010, 02:49:49 PM
Top 25 teams, followed by top 25 schools:

Team (First Place Votes) – Points Per Eligible Ballot (Previous Position)

1. Northwestern FS (9) -- 24.57 (2)
2. Emory IW (6) -- 24.40 (1)
3. Michigan State LW -- 22.93 (3)
4. Harvard JP -- 20.80 (8)
5. UT Dallas BR -- 20.36 (4)
6. California BP -- 19.54 (5)
7. Whitman CS -- 19.00 (6)
8. West Georgia BS -- 18.07 (7)
9. Wake Forest CS -- 16.45 (10)
10. Mary Washington KS -- 16.23 (9)
11. California BJ --14.08 (15)
12. Kansas KS -- 13.71 (11)
13. Oklahoma GW -- 13.20 (12)
14. Georgia CL -- 12.36 (14)
15. Wake Forest CM -- 10.18 (18)
16. Kansas KQ -- 10.00 (13)
17. Missouri State FK -- 9.53 (17)
18. Georgetown HS -- 7.73 (16)
19. Emory GJ -- 6.13 (19)
20. Michigan LZ -- 5.07 (NR)
21. Baylor CM -- 4.93 (23)
22. Emory NS -- 2.67 (NR)
23. Southern California HL -- 2.43 (19)
24. Towson JM -- 2.20 (21)
25. Vanderbilt BN -- 2.00 (NR)

Dropped out: No. 22 Texas CM, No. 24 Gonzaga CJ, No. 25 Central Oklahoma KS

Also receiving votes: Central Oklahoma KS, Gonzaga CJ, Harvard KR, Iowa SV, Kansas State MZ, Northwestern BF, Northwestern GL, Samford BG, Texas CM, UT San Antonio MT


Top 25 Schools (by total points to that school per eligible ballot):

1. California -- 33.62
2. Emory -- 33.20
3. Wake -- 26.63
4. Northwestern -- 26.41
5. Kansas – 23.71
6. Michigan State -- 22.93
7. Harvard – 21.40
8. UT Dallas -- 20.36
9. Whitman -- 19.00
10. West Georgia -- 18.07
11. Mary Washington -- 16.23
12. Oklahoma -- 13.20
13. Georgia -- 12.36
14. Missouri State -- 9.53
15. Georgetown -- 7.73
16. Michigan -- 5.07
17. Baylor -- 4.93
18. Southern California -- 2.43
19. Towson -- 2.20
20. Vanderbilt -- 2.00
21. Texas -- 1.47
22. Iowa -- 0.40
     Kansas State -- 0.40
24. Central Oklahoma -- 0.33
25. Samford -- 0.27

Thanks,

seth
Title: Re: National Top 25 -- as of 1/16
Post by: kellythompson on February 17, 2010, 07:34:49 AM
For the record, the top 16 in the Coaches' Poll accurately predicted the 16 first rounds given out this year. (Assuming, of course, you remove Cal BP who chose not to apply.)

I find this fascinating given the discussion from earlier in the season about how it was not a measure...etc.

Title: Re: National Top 25 -- as of 1/16
Post by: kelly young on February 17, 2010, 08:56:02 AM
True, but the discussion from Repko and Hester simply suggested that they would vote differently for the top 25 than 1st rounds. No one made the claim that the Top 25 rankings couldn't predict the 1st rounds, just that those who vote in both processes don't want to give the impression that they vote the exact same way in both.
Title: Re: National Top 25 -- as of 1/16
Post by: kellythompson on February 17, 2010, 09:12:32 AM
that's fair - I wasn't trying to argue or start a debate of any sort. I was just commenting on how accurately it predicted them! I thought it was neat.
Title: Re: National Top 25 -- as of 1/16
Post by: A Numbers Game on February 17, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
The Hanson team rankings (http://commweb.fullerton.edu/jbruschke/web/BruschkeResults.aspx) also accurately predicted all of the first rounds, minus Cal BP. The Bruschke team rankings (same page) did not do quite as well, ranking a team that missed (Emory JG) 7th, a team that hit (Wake CM) 36th and a team that did not apply (Trinity BH) 12th.